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Re: GGggrrrr..people that DONT have kids... betteroffalso: YEs...exactly!  His sister just started kindergarten and brings home germs all the time..plus at the park, store, library, and so..kids are gonna get sick!

By the way Bubba...how do you get your little one to eat the veggies?? My daughter always did well..she loves salad and broccoli and carrots....cucumbers, and so on..but my son just wont yet..any suggestions?
Re: GGggrrrr..people that DONT have kids... sparks: I know what you mean. My boss has no kids and he is always telling me what i am doing wrong.  I figure that so far they are both alive and healthyand happy so now I just ignore him.

But talking about getting your kids to eat I have to tell you about my friend and her son. He refused to eat anything except waffles. It was such a struggle to get him to eat his vegatables or anything else.  He was about 3 years old. Finally she got so frustrated she went to Walmart and bought  a waffle maker and bisquick.  Everynight she would cook dinner, cut up her 3 year olds food and throw it in waffle batter and make a dinner waffle.  No more problems. He got his veggies and after a while he got sick of waffles.


Re: GGggrrrr..people that DONT have kids... tara: I don't have kids of my own, but J. has a daughter, and he gets very annoyed when even people *with* children think they know her better than he does.

Case in point -- his stepmother. J, daughter and I were visiting his parents, and stepmom decided it would be fun to host a lot of people for dinner and then light off fireworks. (This was Texas, where fireworks are legal.) Problem was, she talked up the fireworks in front of daughter, and then insisted daughter stay up to see them -- ever see a toddler up at 10 pm, when her usual bedtime is 8 or earlier? It's not like letting an 8-year-old stay up late. It's not a treat. She wants sleep, she needs sleep, she's whiny and squirrely and too tired to use her words properly to express her desire to sleep.

Then, of course, she wouldn't settle, and when the party came back inside, stepmom instisted on having coffee in the kitchen (adjacent to the bedroom where H was staying), even though there was a perfectly serviceable living/dining room further away (not to mention a lovely patio). When J. very politely asked if they could go elsewhere so he could get his daughter to sleep in peace, stepmom replied that "children have to learn that the world doesn't revolve around them and their whims."

I came up with the perfect comeback a minute too late (and I had just met them and probably wouldn't have used it anyway): "Yeah, there are a lot of adults who haven't learned that lesson yet, either."

It's probably every grandparent's role to slightly undermine their kids; my grandparents let me have an extra cookie, fed me the sugary cereals and let me watch too much TV, when my parents weren't looking. But stepmom is an underminer to the Nth degree -- contradicting J in front of his daughter, and so forth. I see why they're not buddies.
Re: GGggrrrr..people that DONT have kids... betteroffalso: Man, she sounds very difficult to deal with...great comeback by the way! ;)
Since when is "sleeping" a "whim"!!!  >:(  They NEED sleep!  HOw old is the toddler? I think every child is different, and every parent knows what is best for THEIR child.  (now whether they do it or not is a different question..lol)  and its OK for parents to offer advice or a suggestion if your relationship is that way, but not when it comes to the detriment of the kids! ;D
I dont know your and J's status..but if she is a mother in law or soon to be mother in law...all I can say is .......GOOD LUCK GIRL!
Re: GGggrrrr..people that DONT have kids... tara: [quote author=betteroffalso link=topic=18050.msg159588#msg159588 date=1125494550">
Man, she sounds very difficult to deal with...great comeback by the way! ;)
Since when is "sleeping" a "whim"!!!  >:(  They NEED sleep!  HOw old is the toddler? I think every child is different, and every parent knows what is best for THEIR child.  (now whether they do it or not is a different question..lol)  and its OK for parents to offer advice or a suggestion if your relationship is that way, but not when it comes to the detriment of the kids! ;D
I dont know your and J's status..but if she is a mother in law or soon to be mother in law...all I can say is .......GOOD LUCK GIRL!
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J and I may be heading in that direction (we're discussing cohabitating, anyway) -- I get along pretty well with his stepmother, actually. I can handle difficult people, and we have enough in common outside of that (we both cook, for instance, and the fact that I am not J's ex-wife goes a long way toward ingratiating me on that side of the family). It may be different if J and I have a kid together, and stepmom becomes a grandma to my own kid (even though I've become pretty protective of H over the last several months).

Toddler is almost 3. And she's not very demanding; of course J will not let her get away with the "whim" of demanding a hot dog when everyone else is eating chicken, or running around the restaurant screaming unless it's Chuck E. Cheese or something. But this is different -- she was clearly crashing hard, over-tired, scared of the fireworks (and she's not usually scared of much if she's not over tired to begin with).  She needed sleep.


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