Re: (sorry Men) MEN ARE FR****** LIARS hardened_heart1970: last night, i had pepporoni pizza.
sorry. i had clams and fries, a roll, and trailer cheese (cottages cousin)
im bad. please whip me.....
Re: (sorry Men) MEN ARE FR****** LIARS Lost-and-alone: I ALWAYS tell him that I never get mad about WHAT he is hiding, but I do get mad at the fact that he IS hiding it!!! He just CANNOT tell the truth - and he almost always gets caught by me but just cannot stop himself. This is so foreign a concept to me, I just don't get it. Can't they see that lying always turns out badly??? That you weave the tangled web and you cannot get out of it alive?? He can live 2 totally separate lives - the one with me, and the other one, God knows what it consists of, but it isn't good I know that. I cannot imagine living like that, I was taught honesty was the most important thing, so I cannot tolerate lying from anyone, much less my husband. They can cover it up so well because they are so practiced at it - and I am so gullible apparently, as I always tended to believe him because he "seems" so honest - but not anymore....if the guy said anything honest, how would I even know?????????GGGGGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Re: (sorry Men) MEN ARE FR****** LIARS techick: lost and alone,
I get you on that one!!! I try, TRY to tell people that dealing with whatever it is, is easier then having to deal with the problem AND the deciet later! But they jsut don't GET this.
I agree with someone (sorry not scrolling through this all) that he is most likely justifying it in his mind, giving himself "rules" that he is not breking, as in the "it's not physical so it's not an affair, it's a friend" BUT he's lying to you and THAT is the problem here.
You've gotten a lot of good advice here and it seems you are trying hard so the only thing I will say now, is the same as someone else above, little lies lead to big lies, remember you are TEACHING him how to treat you and right now you are teaching him that you will get upset but that you will STAY and, apparently, this is a situation he can upset, being in the dog house for a bit, but with the knowledge that you are going to be there when he comes out.
Sorry Hon, but that's my idea on this:(
Re: (sorry Men) MEN ARE FR****** LIARS hudson: [quote author=Mystic Rain link=topic=21539.msg201478#msg201478 date=1131803417">
>:( I don't Fuk*** get it. Why do men lie so much? They are men, shouldn't you act like one. OMFG. This is ridiculous.
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Well, I never really liked statement that cast negative stereotypes on genders. The fact that he lies has nothing do with his gender, just in case you're wondering. Women can be just a big of liars.
Bottomline is, you don't trust your man. Whether he lies or not. That's a problem. Whether he hooked up with his co worker for a meeting or for coffee or for sex, men don't like to be told what to do or controlled. He's gonna do what he wants to do, one way or another. I think he proved that to you.
So, I would say, if you can't trust him, which obviously you can't/won't and if you won't abide by his choices, then you need to evaluate whether or not this relationship is good for you. Trust is crucial and if it's not present the relationship is doomed.
Also, from the little ultimatum he gave you to either trust him or move out, it doesn't seem like he's willing to give up his independence, this other woman or much of anything to keep you. He's gonna do it his way with or without you. So you need to decide if you're gonna stay in that kind of a relationship.
My 2 cents.
Re: (sorry Men) MEN ARE FR****** LIARS techick:
Well, I never really liked statement that cast negative stereotypes on genders. The fact that he lies has nothing do with his gender, just in case you're wondering. Women can be just a big of liars.
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Agree with that one!
It kills me when a man will be true and a woman hurts him because of it!!! They ruin a good person for the rest of us good people who would LIKE to find same:(
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