Re: St. Johns Wart Beren: Sheeps, I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. "Feeling Good" is about Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and has plenty of research behind it of its own. It does not discount the value of medication; in fact, if I recall correctly, the latest edition has a drug guide at the end of it. You might want to check out the book before you compare it to Scientology. You can pick it up in paperback for under ten bucks.
Beren
Re: St. Johns Wart sheeps: [quote author=Beren link=topic=38086.msg419437#msg419437 date=1165679661">
Sheeps, I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. "Feeling Good" is about Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and has plenty of research behind it of its own. It does not discount the value of medication; in fact, if I recall correctly, the latest edition has a drug guide at the end of it. You might want to check out the book before you compare it to Scientology. You can pick it up in paperback for under ten bucks.
Beren
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Uhm, thanks. Of course your assumption is that I have not "checked it out". Have you checked out Dianetics? I'm sure you can pick it up in paperback for under ten bucks.
Re: St. Johns Wart marfanoidus: Sheeps, you're entitled to your opinion. It is very short sighted and dismissive.
For everyone else, it is important to make the following distinction: medical doctors will almost ALWAYS prescribe antidepressants, because that is what they do. Some people receive benefit from them, some don't.
Psychologists more and more over the last three decades have been using Cognitive Begavioral Therapy with great success. Combined with medication it proves even more successful.
[quote"> To claim that depression, especially clinical depression, is "caused" by continued "negative thoughts" goes against years of clinical studies that show that clinical depression is an imbalance of brain chemistry, often of an inherited nature.[/quote">
Nope, you're flat wrong. Are you talking about clinical studies put on by medical doctors, or are they studies performed by professional psychologists (remember, the FDA approves of psychology/psychiatry just as much as it approves MDs). There are plenty of studies showing the positive outcome of CBT therapy.
Listen everyone, the curt references by Sheeps to Mood Rings, Scientology, and Dianetics are misapplied and carry an unwarranted negative tone.
CBT is only about your mental outlook on life, making it more proactive, positive, uplifting, and less distorted. It doesn't involve handing over your fortune, signing on to a higher power, going through 12 steps, hypnosis.... it is only about changing the way you look at life. For someone to make fun of that is just ridiculous, and potentially harmful.
Of course, there will always be nay sayers we can ignore ::)
In fact, put this in your pipe and smoke it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_therapy
No logical and rational person read that page and walk away comparing it to Scientology, Dianetics, or think of a Mood Ring. How rude.
Re: St. Johns Wart Beren: [quote author=sheeps link=topic=38086.msg419441#msg419441 date=1165680684">
[quote author=Beren link=topic=38086.msg419437#msg419437 date=1165679661">
Sheeps, I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. "Feeling Good" is about Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and has plenty of research behind it of its own. It does not discount the value of medication; in fact, if I recall correctly, the latest edition has a drug guide at the end of it. You might want to check out the book before you compare it to Scientology. You can pick it up in paperback for under ten bucks.
Beren
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Uhm, thanks. Of course your assumption is that I have not "checked it out". Have you checked out Dianetics? I'm sure you can pick it up in paperback for under ten bucks.
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I apologize for my mistaken assumption. My new assumption is that you're not quite bright enough to make the distinction between a well-researched and successful method of therapy and complete bullshit.
Beren
Re: St. Johns Wart Lumpy: [quote author=sheeps link=topic=38086.msg419441#msg419441 date=1165680684">
[quote author=Beren link=topic=38086.msg419437#msg419437 date=1165679661">
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Uhm, thanks. Of course your assumption is that I have not "checked it out". Have you checked out Dianetics? I'm sure you can pick it up in paperback for under ten bucks.
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Xenu is not pleased. Dianetics is not to be sold for a marklar less than 15 quatloos. Don't make me get all "reactive mind" on your ass.
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