Re: is she/he easy? ionysis: The "you" in my post wasn't actually directed at YOU Goose. I should have said "one" or "a person" I suppose. My point was merely that just because someone sleeps with you, I mean sleeps with a person, on the first date or sleeps with who ever she want whenever she wants when she is single doesn't mean she should lose others respect or be seen as not long term relationship material. The two issues are totally unconnected.
Is whether someone deserves respect determined by how many sexual partners they have or by other factors about them? I personally think that there are many reasons I would lose respect for someone - displaying traits like cruelty, bigotry, dishonesty, selfishness, aggression, etc... whether they slept with somone after 2, 5, or 20 dates is irrelevant to my judgement of their worth as a person or whether they would make a good life partner.
Acting in a manner which is disrespectful to yourself or others - engaging in unsafe sex or sexual acts which are self-destructive, dishonest, coersive or hurt other people in some way - is a different question to the simple issue of having sex on the first date. These things can't be good for the people involved. But the two do not necessarily go hand in hand.
This is the first time I've got on my soapbox - it's quite fun!
Re: is she/he easy? smokin: [quote author=tree link=topic=40013.msg440713#msg440713 date=1168880429">
goose tape man,
I think the lack of respect for the woman who sleeps with a man on the first date is in the eyes of the man she slept with. If he has respect issues or not.
I think it's a great way to see a mann's true character. I mean, he WANTED her to sleep wiht him, right? Then why is he going and talking trash about her afterwards?
That is a HUGE redflag to me. There are standards that we all hahve to treat others by. If we are looking for an excuse to disrespect someone, we'll find it easily by getting into their pants.
Know what I mean?
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i didnt say that the man that she slept with was bad mouthing her. guys, and girls alike, talk to their friends about their experiences, or dates. if a man wants a second date, theres NO WAY he would bad mouth the woman he had sex with on the first date. that would be crazy.
of course, this all depends upon the size of your area, or town, or city. i like in a town with 6000 people, so everyone knows what is happening to everyone else. theres a few girls in town, who have a reputation of sleeping with their dates on the first night, and they always get hit on by men, because they are an easy target.
and remmeber, this is in IMHO *and yours, and everyones. and remember, its not the partner whos judging. its his friends others friends, the womans friends. when you sleep with someone, it *hardly* ever stops just with the 2 people committing the act........
Re: is she/he easy? Temporary: And don't forget the "easy" or whatever person judging themselves....
is she/he easy? smokin: ok . after seeing other posts, and reading things, i often wonder, what do YOU as an individual, think an easy date is?
the other thing to consider, is alot of women in todays society, dont respect themselves as much as they did, lets say, 15 years ago. (of course, neither do the guys)...........
meaning, how often do you see a woman, hold out on sex when dating someone? not very much now. if a woman likes the guy, if it hits date 3 without some form of sexual thing happening, its a miracle.
of course guys "push" the envelope, to get to first base, and go to a home run, asap. but women have the "power" to hold them off. i personally when seeking for my significant other, do not believe that a woman who gives it up, in the first 3 dates is much for long term relationships. i want a woman who knows what she wants, but respects herself enough to wait a while.
thus, meaning, that women have the power to break the typical "woman" stereotype, that shows they have given up on some of their values.
so, if a woman/guy gives themselves to you on the first date, are they REALLY along term material? what do YOU think, makes for long term? or do you think that just because the other sex puts out fast, that it doesnt matter?
sign me, bored without ;D
Re: is she/he easy? hudson: [quote author=GooseTapeMan link=topic=40013.msg440351#msg440351 date=1168827910">
i personally when seeking for my significant other, do not believe that a woman who gives it up, in the first 3 dates is much for long term relationships. [/quote">
Well, I banged my exwife on our second date, so maybe you're on to something here goose. She made for terrible long term potential.
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