Re: is she/he easy? smokin: no, it all helps.
i dunno. in my case(s) i think that a woman who gives it up right off the bat, is not relationship material, cause what if your on the first date with her, and get "something"? whats to say she hasnt been like this her whole life, and instead of only sleeping with 4 guys, its 40 guys......
theres this girl, whom i know. shes attractive, and we get along really well. but on the other hand, i know that she can be had in no time at all *she falls real easy*, and im just not interested in being with someone like that. (ps. were not talking rebounds, were talking ltr)
as ive told women who question why guys are jerks before, i say this
"if you really want to see if a guy likes you for you, make him wait for sex, as if he waits, he wants you for you".............
the girls who sleep around, or are atainable "fast" are indeed labeled "sluts". and a guy who does this is labeled a "player" BUT have different results, and are treated differentely in society. no idea why, but thats how it goes.....
i think if you respect yourself, you WILL WAIT. doesnt matter how long you been horney, or how many drinks. the girl who refuses to kiss you on the first date, yet wants to go out on a second date, is the kind of girl who gets respected more, although some guys get mad at not getting kissed, i gain respect for that girl, cause its the first step that shows me shes not easy......
Re: is she/he easy? just_me_detroit: It wouldn't really matter to me. If there is a connection and she is comfortable with it then no problem.
I don't think it correlates very well with long term compatibility.
But she has to have the right personality though. If she is slutty then nope. But slutty is different than having sex early with someone your connected with.
Re: is she/he easy? katbuttkid: I think it's a situational case-by-case deal.
I don't correllate sleeping around with respect issues at all.
If a woman is getting all the respect she needs, who cares if she's slept with 4 men or 40 men?
I don't think it indicates long term abilities either.
But then again, I'm not usually thinking in these terms.
I think if I were sorta insecure in my sexuality and didn't beleive in sexual freedom and equal rights, then it might bother me that my man had slept around. As it is, the past is the past... who cares? what matters is now, and the future. There are so many other, more substantial reasons people can't committ than a track record.
That said, one of my best friends since grade school had cleared 40 men before high school was over. She got married and was married for 12 years. Since then she's had a few long term boyfriends. No fooling around at all. Very serious about relationships. They haven't worked out, but if you look at how long my comittments lasted, and hers, well, she's done a lot better than I have, and i'm STILL a bit less than 40.
Yeah, I don't think they are connected.
Respect of oneself comes in so many ways... like selling out an idea, like skimping on a friend because a boyfriend doesn't like it, like being pressured to adapt to a lifestyle you otherwise wouldn't, like dressing a certain way/doing certain things to please a man, like lying to protect him or make him look good.... those are FAR worse "sins" in my mind than enjoying some simple sex! those are the things that are disrespectful, I think-- those things and others like them.
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Re: is she/he easy? smokin: good views....
i know from *seeing* this, that when a woman sleeps around, and sleeps quick, that guys often see them as an easy target, to wine, dine, then get in the sack. and if that woman, is so easy, to sleep with a guy on the first date, *most* other guys DO NOT respect her for that.
maybe she respects herself, but does that help now that she has *easy target* labeled on her, by the other guys? IMHO i do not see how she can have a guys respect. yes, he may say he respects you, but when hes talking with his buddies, be sure that he will bring up, how he banged the woman on the first date. does this *add* to a womans respect that she gets from other guys? not to mention what the other girls are saying about what shes doing.........
if a woman sleeps on the first date, what happens 4 years down the road, when she meets the new boss, that shes so attracted to, and yet she can be had on the first date?
and id much rather be with someone who had 4, instead of 40, but it isnt something i will ask. i wont ask, as you stated, thats the past.
good responses too. gtm
Re: is she/he easy? flyaway: goose, it's been my experience over the last couple of years that the secret to keeping a man interested is NOT sleeping with him.
*I really don't know what that says about my skillz, per se, but it is what it is*
I think there's something in the "thrill of the chase" for you guys.
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