does our constitutional rights happyheart: extend to illegal immigrants? theres always people fighting fiercly, and dirty when it comes to illegal immigrants. they are now trying to state that sending them home, violates their constitutional rights.
but can ones constitutional rights be violated, if they are indeed NOT a citizen of the united states? they are now using the kids views, to try to stop it. while, i DO feel bad for the kids, we need to worry about our OWN people, and support our own people first.
so, can they be violated?
"No matter how we feel about immigration reform, leaving children abandoned and violating a person's constitutional rights are wrong," said Rev. Anna B. Lange-Soto of El Buen Pastor Episcopal Church in Redwood City.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_re_us/immigration_raids_children;_ylt=AsvAGbJQlB30vBTOrnntpsFH2ocA
Re: does our constitutional rights pluscachange: [quote author=lou stooth link=topic=43022.msg493196#msg493196 date=1175686709">
extend to illegal immigrants? theres always people fighting fiercly, and dirty when it comes to illegal immigrants. they are now trying to state that sending them home, violates their constitutional rights.
but can ones constitutional rights be violated, if they are indeed NOT a citizen of the united states? they are now using the kids views, to try to stop it. while, i DO feel bad for the kids, we need to worry about our OWN people, and support our own people first.
so, can they be violated?
"No matter how we feel about immigration reform, leaving children abandoned and violating a person's constitutional rights are wrong," said Rev. Anna B. Lange-Soto of El Buen Pastor Episcopal Church in Redwood City.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_re_us/immigration_raids_children;_ylt=AsvAGbJQlB30vBTOrnntpsFH2ocA
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Well here's the deal. Your rights are not in the Constitution, they are a part of your being as a person. That is to say, they are human rights, meaning, they belong to everybody equally. The Constitution does nothing to establish or grant rights, in fact only the BOR proper provides a framework for the government to act as the guarantor of rights, not the provider of rights. Meaning essentially that it's a list of rights the government simply cannot touch (though we all know in reality the modern government doesn't give a rat's ass about rights whatsoever).
That said, the word "rights" has become so anti-ethical to it's real meaning in modern parlance that people think things that aren't rights, are. Rights are essentially things that you can do without asking permission from anybody (government) that do not infringe on the rights of others. This is the classical Age of Reason understanding of rights, and the ones we should still be working on. Thus, there is no "right" to health care, food, clothing, a "living" wage, etc. But people get so emotional these days that they feel because they really *want* something or because something might help another, then it is a right. This is of course ridiculous, but it's how moderns work.
Thus, to answer your question, all human beings are endowed with the same exact rights, those rights being their birthright as human beings and having nothing whatsoever to do with government, nationality or any other transient factor. However, the things being demanded by people coming into the U.S. are not rights, but are being framed as such in order to spur some kind of sympathy by the powers that be.
The world is a lot simpler than the word twisting demons we call politicians make it out to be, and they count on your confusion to allow them to play all kinds of tricks on them. It's too bad really, in my opinion, that the mythological "trickster" character has disappeared from our culture, because it was little more than the embodiment of politicians and lawyers today. We've lost a lot, and people now work on ignorance and emotion, as they have been taught to do.
Re: does our constitutional rights Lumpy: [quote author=lou stooth link=topic=43022.msg493196#msg493196 date=1175686709">
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"No matter how we feel about immigration reform, leaving children abandoned and violating a person's constitutional rights are wrong," said Rev. Anna B. Lange-Soto of El Buen Pastor Episcopal Church in Redwood City.
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I would guess that the argument that this Reverand is espousing has to do with the rights of a child born in this country to an illegal immigrant. Said child is considered a legal citizen and is extended Constitutional rights I believe.
Re: does our constitutional rights darkrose: Our constitutional rights don't even extend to citizens..
but that's another story.
